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people -- in your campaign -- a balanced budget by 1983. biggerow had more and deficits in the 4 years you've been in office. mr. president, do you have a secret plan to balance the budget sometime in a second term, and if so, would you lay out that plan for us tonight? the president. >> i have a plan -- not a secret plan. as a matter of fact, it is the economic recovery program that we presented when i took office in 1981. it is true that earlier, working with some very prominent economists, i had come up, during the campaign, with an economic program that i thought could rectify the great problems confronting us -- the double-digit inflation, the high tax rates that i think were hurting the economy, the stagflation that we were undergoing. before even the election day, something that none of those economists had even predicted had happened, that the economy was so worsened that i was openly saying that what we had thought on the basis of our plan could have brought a balanced budget -- no, that was no longer possible. so, the plan that we have had and that we are following is a plan

the biggest deficit in our history. over the last four years, the deficit has gone up but 90% is a consequence of two wars that weren't paid for, as consequence of tax cuts that weren't paid for. a prescription drug plan that wasn't paid for and worst economic crisis since the great depression. that accounts for 10% for the increase in the deficit. >> we asked editor james free man to run the numbers. so let's take these one by one. did president obama inherit the biggest deficit in american history? >> it wasn't the biggest and he didn't inherit it. world war ii had bigger deficits. he didn't really inherit it. he helped create it. 2009 was the first year in office and especially something he doesn't seem to want to remember, stimulus $8000 billion. >> paul: as a share of the economy it was 3.2%. it did balloon to 10.1% in 2009. i would give president bush some credit for that because in fact the recession had started. the recession for his first six months of his term. what you are saying there is a thing called $830 billion spending. >> february 2009 that president obama doesn't want to tak

to decrease the deficit? >> yes, it's the only specific tax increase that-- of both candidates and if you would close the deficit and turn some of the tacks to the higher levels, and the revenues for the government, revenue enhancement. however, to cost patriotism to say a small fraction of the country will have an extra tax burden, everybody has to pay more taxes, in fact, if you combine the tax proposals of mitt romney and president obama, together you would have a patriotic plan where you're removing some of the benefits of the lower people the last 10, 15 years and then, we would have higher revenues cross the board and that would lower the deficit the most, and the other things in this that are not particularly patriotic. a lot of the obama proposals think there's a small group that can fix the problems. the thing with the car thing, we all have to pay a higher gas tax and help the deficit, and have the cars making 80 miles per hour and we're the ones driving far. >> you say you want to wave the flag for patriotism, you say there's something to it? >> yeah, sure, first of all, you've

, increasing efficiency, decreasing the budget deficit, and real focus that we appreciate in northern california on clean energy. for example, moving the state's goal to be 33% clean energy producing. it is my privilege to welcome governor brown to the panel. [applause] >> and to introduce our next panelist, i would like to welcome steve ballmer, senior bp -- vp. >> good morning and thank you. next up is governor hickel lipper -- hickenlooper. he is the serieaal a entreprener each of you have in your respective parts. he became very successful in the brew pub business. he never had a single election not even for stink -- a student council. governor? [applause] in keeping with the discussion, he is keen on innovation and things of that nature. i know that will come out. thank you, governor. >> are we all set? i am from the "mercury news," and we're here because we live in a global cloueconomy. it has altered local economies because so many manufacturing and technology jobs are moving, whether it is a matter of costs for going where the trained work force is. we're fortunate to have to

. >> they came to narrow the deficit next year to 3% of national output -- date came to narrow the deficit next year. >> among the measures -- a temporary 75% income tax on earnings over 1 million euros. business also faces cuts in tax breaks. the prime minister presented the 2013 budget. >> this is a budget for social justice. and it is a budget for growth. it prepares us for the future. it is a courageous and responsible budget. >> the package includes public spending cuts of 10 billion euros. france's economy is in a precarious position. second quarter gdp was stagnant, and unemployment has just talked 3 million -- topped 3 million. the government is aiming to make good on election promises while making sure austerity does not hit france into recession -- tip france into recession. >> spanish banks will need 59 billion euros to get back on their feet according to a new report commissioned by the spanish government. >> that will help take pressure off the prime minister, who is seeking to avoid a bailout. spain says they will ask for around 40 billion euros of the total sum, while the rest ma

. >> we were expecting to have a deficit that was going to be about 7% of the economy and it turned out to be 9%. we did not have the time to react. so weak in our political manifesto, the main aim was that we were going to give spain what it needed. there were not actual promises but as a general promised to try to manage the situation. the figures were worse but we were struggling. >> what would the opposition socialist to differently? spain has one of the biggest property bubbles followed by the collapse. >> we want comprehensive reform of the fiscal system. it has to be more progressive. we know in spain that corporations only pay 11% from their benefits. at the same time, there is a large number of citizens who do not pay taxes to income tax. they are liberal professions like people who put all their revenues inside society. we believe there has to be changes and we have to have a more comprehensive system that is able to control everybody. >> won the budget was announced, it was predictable. this economy has already seen 65 billion euros out of it this year. today was confirmed a

be here doing the major things. people want jobs and have to reduce the deficit and avoid the fiscal cliff. this has been the most unproductive session in congress in all the years and decades that i have been a member. we have veterans benefits that will not be increased unless congress acts, we have people waiting for the government to do its job and it is disgraceful that we went home without doing the things that need to be done. we left for the election campaign at the earliest time in memory. the could have stayed here longer and we would call the republicans to bring this back so we can to the nation's business. the republicans have been extremely anti-environmental, hostile to a lot of the women's legislation, they have harmed the middle-class, poll last year and a half has been simply postures and get all the work that is to be done is not addressing these issues. congress should come back in session. we should be working, not taking this time off. i want to call my colleague chris van hollen. >> thank you, henry. there's a will to get things done. we just had the whistle blower p

, trying to do deficit reduction is raising taxes and not doing the cutting on the other end. why don't we try a different approach? why don't we try an approach and cut stuff and then maybe raise, at thats later? >> we can't cut. we can't cut. we can't cut. >> then we're might as well as go down in flames if we can't cut. >> raise taxes. >> neil: charles, one of the interesting things this week, the 47% romney thing and i go back and forth no matter who's nose got out of joint as a result of the comments picked up at a fundraiser. the 47% should stagger you, how we get 47% don't pay taxes. i take nothing away from those on social security, retirement. for whatever reason we're close to paying no federal income taxes today and yet, the only way to correct this, and i think that ben is it an earnest guy and earnestly reading the map of the land is well, we're going to have to hike taxes on the well-to-do or do something like that because the spending cuts and-- so here we go on this group that we always hit up despite the fact that half aren't getting in at all. >> the spending cuts will ne

a fiscal deficit problem or whether it has to be solved. a year ago that was debated and now the debate is however going to solve the? are we going to solve it on the revenue side? are we going to to solve it on the expenditure side? there is no one who is saying we should widen the deficit. everyone exceeds to it that the real debate is about how we get it done and also the nature of the government that is the consequence of how gets them. obviously government will grow. if you shrink the budget the government will retract and that has implications to the budget. it's an ongoing debate always in america but if you think about what has been accomplished in the last year everyone knows we have to solve the problem. how to solve what has resulted in an impasse and, but the fact that everybody agrees it needs to be solved is really the most important thing. >> but it seems to me that it's a math problem and as you said, if you have got you know slow but stable growth for an extended period of time here than ultimately the raponos have to go up and expenditures have to go down. neither of w

. more jobs will slash that deficit. >>> our third story, another day, another bad set of numbers for mitt romney. there are two new polls today by the american research group and they have mitt romney trailing president obama in two more swing states. five points in new hampshire and two in virginia. although i wanted to highlight the virginia one. there had been other polls to show that gap wider. this would be a much better than expected result than some of the others we've seen. this week, all in has not been kind to the republican candidate, as polls have shown him falling behind the president. but he is not showing any change in confident. >> i've got a little secret here and that is that obama campaign thinks that pennsylvania is in their pocket. they don't need to worry about it. and you're right and they're wrong. we're going to win pennsylvania. we're going to take the white house. >> he's going to have to overcome a big deficit to do it, but people do like a comeback kid. max, jen, the obama campaign press secretary. two very different problems. one, you don't want to g

cnbc poll, and a national deficit that will pass the $1 trillion mark tomorrow for the fiscal year for the fourth straight year. conventional wisdom saying that president obama should be losing, but there's a slew of national and swing state polls that show president obama building a small lead against republican rival mitt romney. joining me now, tameka simms, and lynn sweet. good afternoon to both of you ladies. >> hello. >> good afternoon. >> let's take a quick look at the polling here. president obama up by five in a fox news poll, six in a bloomberg poll, three in a politico poll, seven points in a "national journal" poll. why do you think that the president is edging out mitt romney in these polls, when the economic recovery has been so slow? >> well, it's a fairly complicated answer, and a lot of it has to do with voter attitudes towards the economy, less so than voter attitudes toward president obama or mitt romney. in many ways, voters have gotten used to the idea of a poor economy, even a lackluster one. and they've kind of gotten used to it. a quarter of the people who s

of veteran affairs >>> the governor but said an $18 billion deficit, every department in california it took to cut >>> he says that is why the fresno home and another facility in redding a mistake and the another year >>> if we can head of irene dunne were looking at the fall of 2013 >>> gov. brown set aside $4 million in this year's budget to keep the two empty home is running >>> and there our electricity bills and staff >>> he estimates the tab to keep the homes clean and air- conditioned runs about $280,000 a month >>> why can't the putt furnishings in there so that's can go in and live in there the way they should be >>> it does not make sense if not going to open it why allow your money and my money taxpayer money to go into build the facility of that nature and have it said. >>> the department of veterans affairs does the best it can with what a it's got >>> the someone needs care now we will work with them to get them into one of the veterans' homes in california we have 600 homes they are operational >>> the only homes with in southern california >>> we have a home here are finish

not quite recognized the deficit we have. as for the state level, a lot has happened. we work at the state level. we attempt to put together coalitions that recognize the importance of educating kids from conception to kindergarten. we are finding more business people who get the reality. they are understanding the situation and are increasingly ready to take action. in the area lisa pointed to, educating early solves educational problems. we published a report last march. it is on the website. it is a way to reduce special education costs. we know quality pre-kindergarten provided to 100 kids yields in reduction in special education costs alone enough to pay for the services. at the state level, there is an understanding that takes place that people can act on. it can better be done on the school district level. the power of technology is enabling people at local levels to act in ways they cannot at the federal level. as they act at the local and state level, it becomes clear that the federal level what needs to be done. the beginnings of this process are sufficiently still knew that it w

, to the projects that we had talked about, we had just closed out a $385 million deficit. we had introduced pension reform as we talked about it at that time to get the city in better economic gear. we had also chosen a new police chief by a year-ago and excited to see what that was. and then supervisor kim and i and david chiu had been fresh off of helping the company called twitter sustain the city and i want to thank supervisor kim, who is here today and we're working closely together to make sure we're doing it right. that all of the impacts that we can generate positively, not only on central market, but throughout her district and throughout the city. i also want to acknowledge other people that are working really hard, because my feeling in a year-ago was that after all of those things that we did, and the work that we had done that first year, rest was my major focus. and after i met with you last year, rest was not on the agenda. absolutely not. in fact, we had gone right to work because there were so many of you who had also felt that the city could turnaround. you have given me and our

in the history of the united states. what are you going to do? you have a two letter $60 billion deficit. you will not slow the spending. you refuse to do that. >> as we get closer to this year's first presidential debate, we're taking a look at some debate from our archives starting with president reagan at 7:00 p.m. eastern. later, it is the 1992 debate between president bush, bill clinton, and ross perot. and then it is our core and george w. bush. they're all tonight here on c- span. >> every generation through our history has worked and sacrificed to meet a better country to their children and grandchildren and future generations. we read then spending the money. we are now much more spending their money. we are leaving them a mess. it will be very difficult to deal with. if we are that week, and just think of who want to come here first and take us over. the last thing i want to see is our country taken over because we're so financially weak we cannot do anything. we're moving in that direction. we are on the edge of the cliff. we have to start fixing it now. otherwise, we are leaving a

't get a debate in the united states of whether the u.s. has a fiscal deficit problem or whether it has to be solved. a year ago, that would have been debated. now the debate is how are we going to solve it? solve it on the revenue side? solve it on the expenditure side? there's no one who is saying we have to widen the deficit or the deficit, as wide as it is, it's not a problem. everyone exceeds to it, but the debate is about how to get it done, and also, the nature of the government that's the consequence of how it gets done. if you spend more, government grows. if you shrink the budget, government contracts, and that has implications for the republic that have been debated since jefferson and hmm lton. it's an ongoing debate always in america, but if you think about what's been accomplished in the last year, everyone knows we have to solve the problem. how we solve it resulted in the impasse, but the fact everyone agrees it needs to be solved is really the most important thing. >> but it seems to me that it's a math problem, and as you said, if you've got, you know, slow, but stable

about the economy, talking about the deficit, talking about four years of president obama would be detrimental to the country. it's pretty plain and simple. president obama and republican nominee mitt romney are laying low today because they're getting ready to prepare for the debate, so it's the number 2s on the campaign trail. right behind me here, here's paul ryan stumping here in new hampshire, a crucial battleground state. when he's done here, he goes to ohio later today. another very big important battleground state. and that's the whole idea here, as the president and mitt romney get ready for the debate. paul ryan and vice president joe biden are on the campaign trail. specific new hampshire. the race here is kind of close. the most recent poll shows president obama with a five-point advantage over mitt romney. definitely a very close contest here in new hampshire. this is a state that may not know paul ryan very well, but knows mitt romney very well, who was governor of neighboring massachusetts. he owns a vacation home here in new hampshire. spends a lot of time in thi

's deficit. let's go to clayton. >> big story making headlines this morning. several days after the attack on the u.s. consulate. this is the story that the obama administration was sticking to. listen. >> this was not a preplanned premeditated attack that what happened initially was it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. >> our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was, in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction. >> what our assessment is as of the president is in fact what it began spontaneously in benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in cairo. >> but as fox news reports, the administration knew within the first 24 hours that it was a terrorist attack. so why were americans left in the dark and how could potential coverup impact the election? here for fair and balanced debate is fox news contributor angela mcglowan and mclavigne. this seems like a big problem for the president. >> i don't see it that way. look, the president came out the morning after the attacks on september 12th. came o

on monday. he is interviewed by richard wolf on the economy, the deficit, and debt and how it has changed since he ran for president in 1992. that is monday night on c-span and c-span radio at 9:00 p.m. eastern. find the article in usa today on monday at usatoday.com. >> ahead of next week's first presidential debate, at the center for american progress looked at both your demographics and how they affect campaign strategy. the report also talks about perceptions of the economy, medicare, and hispanic voters. this is 1.5 hours. >> good afternoon. i am buys president for american values and new communities. i want to thank you for the revisited.p i want to wish you a happy book your registration day. i am sure everyone is registered to vote. this is the list of by two great teams. two weeks before the election, i know that may seem like a very short time. in politics it is a lifetime. we were interesting digging into what is happening in this space. what trends are occurring? how do people feel about the economy? you are the people who show up to the polls in november? we want to have a di

for debilitating diseases. that's not a recipe for growth and we can reduce our deficit, including making some smart decisions on medicare in particular, where we're focused on lowering health care costs by reforming how health care is delivered but we don't need to be voucherizing the system to dump those costs on to seniors because, frankly, they can't afford it right now. >> pelley: there is a lot of rhetoric about medicare. what do you intend to do? >> well, i don't want any change to medicare for current seniors or for those that are nearing retirement. so the plan stays exactly same. >> pelley: make sure i understand. the idea under your plan for future seniors would be that the federal government would write that senior a check, essentially and say "now, you can go buy a private insurance plan or you can buy medicare from the federal government"? >> is that essentially it? >> that's essentially it. people would have a choice of either traditional government- run fee-for-service medicare or a private plan which has to offer the same benefits. it can't be skinnyed down. >> pelley: will th

of in a deficit. you do have supply. you would say, well, maybe we're not producing enough. these are very difficult metals to produce. the supply constraint is such that you can't just kick new production on. as i say, it comes out of south africa. it comes out of russia, and our mine in montana. so the two metals are used primarily for the same product. and that is catalytic converters in cars. you have kind of a surging market for cars. you have the regulatory requirements stepping up in the cars. and you've got sort of this price-driven move from platinum to palladium, so the madeium is getting the bigger market in the cars than platinum has had in the past. so essentially the demand is really quite strong. >> tom: frank, with that cupid of demand outlook for platinum, how do you explain the price differential between gold and platinum. traditionally, as you are well aware, gold is priced per ounce below platinum but right now gold is about $100 above platinum. >> people are looking forward and saying they want something with real value and price the gold up. based upon not demand from

of thousands of dollars in deficit and give free fares and people say they need to take it to school and that brings up a issue why aren't they going to neighborhood schools. we create more problems and we need to get to the root caused of the problems and as supervisor i will advocate for the school board that is in favor of neighborhood schools. >> thank you. mr. garcia. >> when i was school i took operation research and i was a math teacher and i found it difficult and it was area map and dhl, ups come into existence and had to deal with routing and i talked to him and we don't have that and that's one thing we should do and drivers not providing notice and not show up. that doesn't work well and it's difficult to weigh in on the issue of children should be provided with free passes. i think joel is right and why can't kids go to school in their neighborhoods and you have to weigh it in reality and whether children can eat or go to school on muni and that's a difficult choice and if we do it we should mean's test. >> all right. ms. gavin. >> well, it's very interesting. i thi

a deficit let's gouge the drivers. are you going to drive anywhere? no. you're going somewhere else and where is that revenue that we need? and by the way give free passes to youth and expand it from there, so we gill the gooses and shoot the drivers in the foot by digging a deeper hole for yourself and why don't we increase revenue and ticket the people that are riding muni and not paying? enforce that. >> thank you. mr. garcia. >> it sounds like i watch a lot of tv. there is a guy that appears on channel 26 when they do the board of supervisors and he has a wrap about silly hall. this is one of those silly things that we're doing. i think if you were to do cost benefit curves it probably cost the city money and when you ticket people so much for parking meters and have them inappropriate times and past 6:00 p.m. and on sundays and hurts businesses and therefore the net revenue to the city is less than it would otherwise and as far as variable rate parking i think that is a good idea. in some areas it's harder to find a meter and when you do you should pay more for it and i lo

to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when he put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like to hear intellectual debates about policy said, great, bring it on, let's have a big debate about the philosophy of government. down in florida they don't care about the philosophy. >> all politics is local. >> they want the program, they like the program, don't mess with the program. >> thank you, howard. thank you very much for joining us. coming up, claire mccaskill versus todd aiken. it became a good bet for democrats. let's see how it is looking now. claire mccaskill, herself, joins us next. >>> with four judges in the supreme court in their 70s, the next president could dramatically shift the balance of the court to the right or the left. who

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into massachusetts and turned deficits into surpluses, and that he actually is committed to doing this, and that he will do it because he has a record of fulfilling the commitments he makes to solve problems. i think that's what -- what he will try and convey. >> let's talk about libya for a moment. you've gone on the recording saying ambassador stevens suffered the consequences, in your words, of a lazy, detached president. that's tough criticism out there. >> that's right. >> why do you stand by that? >> well, look, what we have is a situation all over the middle east, and you showed some clips of what's happening in pakistan. we have -- we have taken a difficult situation and turned it into a disaster, because we have a president that thought he was somehow going to charm that part of the world into loving america. what he's done is increased the antagonism toward america there by having a failed foreign policy. and harry truman used to say, "the buck stops here" talking about the presidency. and the buck should stop at the president's desk. he has created that climate. he has created the anti-a

and the bush administration for the skyrocketing deficit. >> by the time the reins got turned over to barack and me, they had doubled the national debt in 8 years. >> reporter: with his path to the white house shrinking, florida's looking like a must-win for romney. but today, his runningmate, ckman paul ryan, focused on new hampshire, with four electoral votes. but ryan said that could be a difference in the race that will come to a handful of states. >> thank you, granite staters, for sending mitt romney to the white house and barack obama back to chicago. [cheering] >> reporter: the campaign shifts into a different stage this week, with wednesday night's high-stakes showed own showdown between about the barack obama and mitt romney. >> every change that has happened in a debate, if you look at the history, it's changed because of somebody's mannerisms or style -- they did badly or well. >> reporter: both candidates will spend the next few days in intense sessions. romney may have the most on the line. his campaign is looking that the for a chance for a game changer. abc news, washington.

never been asked. mr. president, you said you'd cut the deficit in half in your first term. it went up $6 trillion. you called bush unpatriotic for $4 trillion in eight years. simple question. mr. president, you predicted if we passed your stimulus by now we would have created 8 million new jobs. they still have fewer americans working. you know, mr. president, you said you'd b transparent. can we see the cables and wires tomorrow? when can we see them? >> how about this, mr. president you said you were taking our foreign policy in a different direction. the middle east is in flames against america and our ambassador is dead. mr. president, in sudan they will not allow u.s. marines to guard american soil. what do you have to say about that? >> sean: romney has got to understand, they're not going to ask these questions. it's his job to bring it up as of next wednesday. here's andrea mitchell, "nbc nightly news," and she says it's ambassador rice who was sent out with false information that we now know is false, as corroborated by a scrubbed websites at the state department to lie as as

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senator when the nation had a recession, another large deficit. we got the job done. i am a candidate because washington is a mess. both parties have made commitments that we cannot keep, and nobody wants to do anything about it. i promise to go to washington to change our congress, and i promise to work with republicans to get our budget balanced so we can set a different course. my opponent promises more of the same. she signed a pledge at that will be very bad for nebraska. i promise bipartisan solutions, and i promise to get the job done. >> thank you. the coin toss determined which candidate will be the first to answer question. it goes to senator kerrey. >> what would you say to people who are unemployed and have given up looking for work altogether? >> we have work to do. washington has not been able to get the job done. we got to have fundamental change in congress. i am advocating a 45-word change in the constitution to have the congress force term limits of 12 years, give the congress permission to ban all outside money and limit what they can spend in campaigns. money is co

specifically about what his plans are for this country. that's been a huge deficit for him over the course of this campaign. no specifics, no details. so i think that is part of the burden he carries next wednesday night. >> i suppose one of the problems for you is that barack obama is in the strange position of being the quite clear favorite. i don't think many incumbent presidents have that going into debates but people say i saw a poll this morning, he's up nearly 60% of americans believe obama will win the debates. that's always a rather precarious place to go into a debate, isn't it, as the clear favorite because expectation levels can often exceed performance. >> that is definitely the case. you know, the president -- we're taking this debate very seriously. we know that there's a certain expectation on our side. we also know what history tells us, that challengers normally win the first debate, just by the fact that they're standing on the stage with the president. that elevates them. and they normally come into these things as underdogs so we're coming into this debate very realist

are they going to solve the deficit problem and also increase job creation?" and i'd like to hear that explained clearly, because they have two very different philosophies. third, i think that if the debates do their job, we're going to be able to answer the question, "what are the sacrifices either one is going to ask us to make?" >> such as reforming social security, medicare, higher taxes, lower taxes? >> yes. and on the table are all sorts of things that many people value a great deal and we may not be able to afford anymore. so should we have deductibility for second home mortgages? should we have deductibility for high-cost homes? should we have health insurance coverage provided by employers continue to be deductible? if so, for whom, should it be for all? and should we raise the age of entitlement, if so, to what level?" when someone says that about social programs, i want to also hear the answer to the question, "what are you doing with military spending? and how do you justify the tradeoff? we've gotta get the revenue someplace. where are you willing to cut? and if not, why not? when y

. >> representative baldwin? >> thank you. let me talk about what i would cut in order to grapple with our deficit and our debt. i'd end the war, i've worked to end the war in afghanistan which costs us $ billion a week. i would get rid of the sweetheart deal tommy thompson negotiated as head of medicare that makes it illegal for drug companies to bargain with -- medicare to bargain with drug companies for better prices for seniors that one costs us $15 billion per year. i'd get rid of corporate welfare for big corporate farms and big oil. i'd also let the bush tax cuts for the top % expire. i also want to look at the record contrast. i already told you about the policies that tommy thompson supported that added over $3.5 trillion to the debt when president bush was in office. i opposed those irresponsible plans that added to our debt. so now in the future, tommy thompson supports a plan that adds trillions more in tax cuts for the very wealthy and raises taxes on the middle class. that's the wrong scription for tackling our -- prescription for tackling our debt. >> our next question, from robert

exactly, and in raw numbers, the deficit problem the country has and he said that mitt romney is the better candidate to try to reverse the trend that the united nations government has been on in the past four years. so we'll have to see if he sharpens that attack even more today. but clearly they know they've got some challenges ahead, in new hampshire, of course the battleground state just four electoral votes there. in this tight race four votes could mean the difference between who is president and who is not. they want to fight hard. mitt romney's adopted home state there, if you will. >> right, so he'll be doing that for sure in new hampshire and then in ohio today. okay, thank you very much, ron mott appreciate that. >>> let's get more on the president's surge in the polls. he is increasing his lead in a number of key swing states. he's leading in all nine nbc/"wall street journal"/marist polls taken over the last three weeks. let's talk about what's happening from the gop perspective. because some there are complaining about the polling. they say the pollsters are over

minded, very flinty, cares a great deal about the deficit and taxes, even there he hasn't gained any advantage, despite being associated with the ryan plan. >> dante, if governor romney comes out big wednesday, if there's some big, bold new policy introduced at the debate in denver, how does that play? >> it may give romney a second chance. i think romney really needs to have a clear victory next week to throw new hampshire back into the mix. i mean, certainly, there is still some volatility here. no one's saying it's over here in new hampshire, but i think the thing is, new hampshire's behaving just like it did four years ago. nothing in the past four years has changed new hampshire's essential character as this democratic-leaning bellwether. >> last question here, ten seconds. we know that the state has been inundated with tv and web ads, obviously. talk to me really quickly about the ground game for governor romney. how would you characterize the governor's ground game in new hampshire? >> you know, it's somewhat -- it compares to obama, although obama got a head start, really, in

's" richard wolfe, and they talked about the economy, the deficit, and the debt, and how it's changed since mr. perot ran for president in 1992 and 1996. this will be monday night on c-span and c-span radio at 9:00 p.m. eastern time, and you'll be able to find richard wolfe's article in the "usa today" on monday and usatoday.com. this is a little bit of what mr. perot had to say in his interview with richard wolfe of "usa today." >> if i told you i don't want to dig out of my debt problem until i go broke, you'd say, what are talking about? that's what you just said. but in very polished terms, recession. you're not going to pay your debt if you don't have the money. and if things are going downhill and you're running your debt up, you make it next to impossible to pay your debt, and we've got to put the brakes on now and do this now and start to get it done. it can be done if we in the house and senate and white house have the will, and certainly they should have the full support of the american people to get it done. host: we're talking about one-party versus divided government for about the

debt and the deficit in the abstract but as soon as it starts coming to specifics and you start talking about what's really going to cut, it doesn't play very well. >> i think this is interesting in part because the republican strategy on medicare was a little more complicated than just vote for this. >> it was much more complicated. very tangled. >> what they were trying to do was split it where they were going to say if you're over 55 you're going to keep what you have now. in fact, we're going to spend $700 billion more on medicare over the next ten years. paul ryan instantly reversed the position that he had when he was in congress. it kept the president's medicare cuts. romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for

economic policies. he says the president promised that he would cut the deficit. it has ballooned. he said the president promised to keep unemployment under 8% if the congress passed the stimulus package. unemployment rate has been over 8% for 43 straight months. that's been the message that paul ryan has been carrying for unfortunately for the campaign mitt romney trails president obama here in new hampshire rather by seven points. in ohio by eight points. he's got a lot of work to do between now and then. next week paul ryan will hit some more battle ground states starting monday in iowa. in between he will also prepare for his debate on october 11th between vice-president joe biden in connecticut. mitt romney and president obama are down for the weekend getting ready to square off in denver for the first of three presidential debates on wednesday. that's the latest from this chunk of the campaign trail. let's send it back to you. >> okay. ron mott. bob seger music background music there. >>> in today's strategy talk, president obama and mitt romney head into wednesday night's debate wit

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